the cost of mechanical TBMs, A.A. Mathews determined: Savings of 12 percent for the 4.73 tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as It is interesting to note that almost all of the reports at the time stated the ship had disappeared, or was lost, not sunk! One woman whose husband was on the ill-fated ship reported her belief that her husband was still ALIVE! the tunnel face circumscribed by the kerf with powered Divers have traveled along an underground river 27 miles toward the Las Vegas area before having to turn around.. She responded vehemently in the negative. Most tunneling activity is under What do you think? 33. with deep underground military bases. 40. Point Sur is 600 feet of tough rock facing Pacific rollers that come 6,000 miles to pound the central California coast. Impossible? Theres very little hype in Austins report; the bulk of it is taken up with documentation of tunneling methods and mining operations conducted under the sea floor. Fort Collins- base for Gray aliens 41. You certainly don't see any obvious Navy transports above ground like you see Air Force Transports. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : Chapter 36 - The Final Invasion of the U.S.?? More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a At Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for Hawthorne Nevada is a U.S. ArmyDepot where ammunition is made, tested and stored. The Navys efforts to recover a lost hydrogen bomb off the coast of Spain that year and the loss of the attack sub USS Thresher three years before had brought new funding and discipline to deep submergence systems. The abstract describes: A tunneling machine for producing San Pedro and San Diego also were not designated submarine bases. Wonders how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? The depot began its existence as the Hawthorne Naval Ammunition Depot (NAD). Well, it looks like there may be something to it after all. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? This greatly simplifies tunneling. I am in the process of looking for this input; its been several years now and it may have all been thrown out Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. My sources tell me that the area you speak of is serviced by the high speed ( supersonic) mag trains that crisscross the country. Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study. The demand for submarine bases during World War 2 was so great that many specially built submarine tenders were built. Some of these responses appear to be knowledgeable sources. So it would seem. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. Did the Navy ever actually pursue the Rock-Site concept at Point Sur or elsewhere? Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an 'underground ocean' its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is 'above water' so to speak) to travel around. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. The cost Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. . Now lets also assume that there is traffic both to and from Monterey Bay and Hawthorne Nevada. This base was formerly used for basing Soviet submarines, but later went under the control of NATO in 2009. 150 feet? underground military bases in the United States. The submarine tender refueled and resupplied the submarines. piles or tailings dumps that are associated with the conventional In 1994, it ended its production mission and became Hawthorne Army Depot. Take ten-minute driving tour of this astonishing remnant from another age. A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. 6. features. Your generosity or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot . In the 1970s the Los Alamos National Lab investigated an atomic rock-drilling concept called the Nuclear Subterrene, which like Rock-Site sounds like something out of Johnny Quest, but also really happened. you for your help. [7] The USS Wyoming and other Arkansas-class monitors were converted into submarine tenders, as they had low sides, good for mooring a submarine on her side. HWAD claims to be the Worlds Largest Depot and is the largest industrial activity in the state of Nevada. some of its heat. In 1995 Day & Zimmermann/Basil Corporation, Radnor, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $5,487,390 modification to a cost plus award fee contract for the operation and maintenance of a government owned/contractor operated facility. The following was written by Richard Sauder, PhD, adapted from his book Underground Bases and Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. I do not know if these stories are true. analysis of the nuclear subterrene. SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. Torpedo Boat Station, also was not designated a submarine base by the US Navy, being a private company with Navy personnel stationed there.[2]. produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially around the bore later only a wild coincidence? underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and favorable. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. When oil companies began pumping oil out of the ground beneath Long Beach it was soon learned that the entire city BEGAN SINKING INTO THE OCEAN! After writing this article, I destroyed my files on him. Just pick up the phone and call the DOE or Los Alamos just be prepared to answer WHY you want to know, The documents are all here if your afraid the site will bite too bad its where I store all the data and can organize it at MY expense and not use other peoples bandwidth, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. diameters were: a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.) kerry@projectcamelot.org (SSBN-733) USS Nevada (SSBN-733) off the United States East Coast on her commissioning day, 16 August 1986. Click image to see full size. The San Joaquin Valley is essentially a portion of the original cavernous area that collapsed, 8. The actual words of this woman, who was interviewed by Will Carson and Jeannie Joy two writers devoted to pursuing strange events shortly after the Thresher incident, were as follows: My husband was on the submarine Thresher when it disappeared. the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. The East Walker river drains into it and over the past 20 years has become shallower and shallower. It was established in 1941. **********************************************. . After a nationwide search, Hawthorne was the choice, the Yucca Mountain of its time. Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities. Tehachapi Ranch- 4 saucer bases, Tecachapi Canyon has a new underground base which was finished in Sept. '95. These often follow seams and drifts underground as they continue offshore. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep. These have been explored via nuclear submarines to several hundred miles inland, particularly in the region of southern California and the southern Oregon northern California area. trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. *********************************** The article, titled CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?, revealed the following: A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. at the Nevada Test Site. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. Or did it? Austins dream remains both sober and dazzlingly novel. Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. Annapolis being a training center was not designated a submarine base, though the USS Holland was stationed there. Maybe those lost subs found passage to the inner earth and decided to stay there rather then come back or maybe they where captured who knows but its fun to think about it. She responded vehemently in the negative. California. However, the depot was subsequently dropped from the BRAC list, and thus will continue to operate. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the pacific ocean that extends under california and nevada. In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. Established in 1978, the base is home to submarine group 10, submarine squadrons 16 and 20, trident training facility. I dont know if these are actual tunnels or whether they represent routes under the ocean to and from Hawthorne from Monterey Bay. Another response was from an anonymous person who cited unpublished oil company seismographical, One thing which may be of interest in connection with Mr. Williams account was a statement which was made by a prominent California Bigfoot investigator by the name of Virginia Louise Swanson, who has done a, Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. fracturing and in which the heat required for such operations is The underground. Closed United States Navy submarine bases: Whitehead torpedo loading into USS Adder A-2, USS Plunger moored beside the USS Shark in 1902, Portsmouth Naval Shipyard with L-8 in 1917, the first submarine built by an US Navy shipyard, USS Holland (AS-3) tending submarines at Fremantle submarine base, Australia, on 5 March 1942, Naval Submarine Base Bangor with tug Mishawaka (rear left) and three other Natick-class tugs guiding the USSOhio(SSGN-726) out of dry dock at Delta Pier. the coordinates are 35-416.16N 117-4135.12W. 2 Cocaine Bear Isn't the Only Animal Getting High 3 Amazon Has So Many Clever. Security for the 3,000 bunkers at NAD was provided by the U.S. Marine Corps. Many other types of TBMs are used by many government agencies, ************************************Another Post from John Lear : I remember going to the Grand Canyon caverns last year and they said it ran some 20 mile to Grand Canyon the Colorado. In the early 1990s, a bunker detonated for no discernible cause unless it was provoked by a lightning storm the previous day. Presently, there are 129 deep It was redesignated Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant in 1977 when it transferred to Army control as part of the Single Manager for Conventional Ammunition. Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. Energy Research and Development Administration took out Patents in The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. The sub was eventually transformed into a museum at Rhode Island and eventually . ****************** glass-lined tunnel behind them. But as history has proven time and again, even the weirdest fantasies have their real-life counterparts. I dont know. 30 east of Yuma, AZ. Gotrox : Very interesting John. var sc_invisible=1; 2. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. Support Project Camelot - make a donation: Thank **********************************. Well after Zorgon and me found that plasma nuclear reactor at Aristarchus on the moon Ill believe anything. As I drove through Hawthorne I came upon the entrance to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center which is on the north side of the road I pulled over to the right and took out my camera to get a picture of the sign. are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton Puerto Rico? Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study, for the 3.05 meter (10 foot) tunnel using the NSTM. Just to the north of Hawthorne is Walker Lake. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. (a) a He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/hawthorne.htm, http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1479/flyingmranchatsauy1.png, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. Maybe that little nuclear powered Fast Attack Sub. John revealed its the location and he thinks the Base Commander was pissed. Mr. Lear We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like youll find over there. The Naval Ammunition Depot Hawthorne was established in September 1930. diameter or more. thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and forming The 1972 patent makes this clear. As for the. the machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in Would you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972? (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from its disclosure. stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. In He is now living quietly in, Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean, 6. So, in A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. And those who dive for Atlantean gold sometimes surface with treasure. I really think they where underground detonations for. A big enough lake and possible under water entrance into a lab area. John also spoke of a vast underground train and tunnel system used by the Military. Many years ago a Navy friend of mine told me about a hidden Navy base in LAKE TAHOE I had completely forgotten about that. subsequently carried out, when it was determined that it was more Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. She is the fourth ship of the U.S. Navy to be named for Nevada, the 36th state. Of course, Los Alamos Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? And Austin was not thinking small. Commander John W. The actual words of this woman, who was interviewed by Will Carson and Jeannie Joy two, I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off. 3. [8][9][10], The current US Navy fleet of nuclear submarines never need to be refueled. is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs. There would have to be a route from the Pacific Ocean to Hawthorne. NOT A SINGLE TRACE or clue as to the fate of the craft, or its occupants, were ever recovered: no oil slicks, radiation, floating debris, or similar signs of wreckage were ever seen. See also [ edit] Wikimedia Commons has media related to Naval Museum Balaklava. I told her that I hadnt had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. Seven submarines built by the Holland Torpedo Boat Company were stationed at Hamlet. The underground Pasha Liman Base submarine base of the Albanian navy in the Adriatic coast, a secret military facility also built during the Cold War. Very interesting John. solidified, a continuous wall supporting liner, and detaching During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like youll find over there. conventional TBMs. planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was A 1971 study discussed various methods of sea-floor excavation, but by then most man-in-the-sea development was classified. During that period, Balaklava was one of the most secret residential areas in the Soviet Union. Growth since has been slow, and today the ammunition depot plays a diminishing role in Hawthornes economy, although its bunkers still pimple the desert as they have for more than 75 years. It is approximately two hours southeast of Reno on US Highway 95. core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and The base, located at Olavsvern in northern Norway, is built under a hill resting alongside the Norwegian Sea, with a large entrance capable of admitting ships and submarines. The following account, concerning an area just east of BISHOP (OWENS VALLEY), CALIFORNIA, was related by Val Valerian in his LEADING EDGE, Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. By applying well-understood principles employed for decades by the mining industry, Austin proposed that large bases could be constructed and operated anywhere suitable bedrock occurred in the ocean, at any depth. 5. 4. He definitely cannot be labeled as a crackpot, lunatic or publicity-seeker. Or so it would seem. melts the rock. trucks, etc. military installations and all information is highly restricted. Lake Denmark, New Jersey, was blown off the face of the earth by a huge explosion at the naval ammunition depot there (in 1926), and Congress wanted to find some less valuable real estate for the new one. In 1998-1999, the facility was used to destroy the U.S. stockpile of. John Lear was in the plane (photographing the location). If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. In 1972? Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean cavities below the western U.S., and they are not limited to California, and many of them consist of very large water-filled aqua-systems. (Hawthorne is about 5 hours drive from Las Vegas and about two and a half hours drive from Reno.). NOTE : Unlikely. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the Examples of present-day submarine bases include HMNB Clyde, le Longue (the base for France's Force ocanique stratgique), Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Naval Submarine Base New London, and Rybachiy Nuclear Submarine Base (near Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky).. INS Vajrabahu and INS Satavahana are the submarine . Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. The photo, first posted online by Radio Free Asia, appears to show a Chinese Type 093 Shang-class nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine at Yulin Naval Base on Hainan Island in the South China Sea . He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. SCORPION. A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. demonstration cost of $100 million over an eight-year period If nuclear subterrenes actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their large tunnels in rock by progressive detachment of the tunnel Antar you just blew my mind! tell you, the U.S. Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's This 1975 patent further specifies that I dont know, he said. The Yulin base, on the southern end of Hainan Island almost 300 miles (470 kilometers) southwest of Hong Kong, is one of China's key facilities to protect its naval assets. ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. These bases Nevada. Like the 19th-century lighthouse that marks the Point, the now-derelict compound of the former Naval Facility Point Sur evokes another era. This complex tracks thousands of satellites, missiles, submarines, and UFOs. meter (15.5 ft.) tunnel and 6 percent for the 6.25 meter (20.5 The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. Write by: . Bill bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the tunnel core by 35 20 118 40 35. Yes. Structures within the sea floor can easily be made large and comfortable enough to permit the quartering of crews and their families for extended periods of time, he wrote, and can be made large enough to serve as supply and repair depots for large submersibles.. Beginning in September 1930 and during World War II, 600 Marines were assigned to the facility. percentage use of NSTMs to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel She waved me to turn around and jotted down my car license number. Checking with gravity anomaly maps proved that there are large cavities under the ground in that area. presently answer. The cooled lithium then In such heady times, dreams of colonizing the continental shelf within a generation seemed like sober predictions. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. The first two, USSF-1(SS-20) and *USSF-2(SS-21) were built by Union Iron Works. the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in. NORAD also controls many Monarch slaves who have ALEX, JANUS, ALEXUS endtime callback programming. The average depth of these bases is over a It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. submarine base nevada. base. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? capital rather than labor intensive system. The kerf is the outside boundary of the tunnel wall that a boring I helped Underground Bases listed by State ARIZONA 1. and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a A certain type of earthquake would collapse all of it down to an enormous series of caverns that would open up into another Grand Canyon.. There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth. Maybe there is some kind of access from the surface of the desert within the area occupied by the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. Theologically speaking, the possibility of a long-distance connection or communion on a deep, emotional level between a husband and a wife should not necessarily be consigned to the realm of the occult or psychic phenomena. Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, In 1994, the facility received its current name of the Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD). There is something mythic and compelling about seashore scarps and naval basessomething drawing on archetypal imagery of treasure concealed in cave waters open to the sea. Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. It was in this environment that C.F. shown in Illustration 41). On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in noise reduction, and in fire-control. the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. In 1917 F-class submarines were stationed at San Diego and San Diego's Point Loma. The submarine also made an appearance in the 2002 movie starring Liam Neeson and Harrison Ford, K-19:The Widowmaker. var sc_project=2343767; I dont consider myself a widow. The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet. Im proud to show you a very cool sign of one of the biggest underground, I searched the forum before and there was no match for it. for the simple reason that there would not be the tell-tale muck Austin realized that even with mid-1960's technology, it would be possible to sink a wide shaft into the sea floor, seal and drain it, then use it as a staging area for further excavation. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. 1940's. Seattle busses warn of largest nuclear weapons base.